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It makes it impossible for people to talk to each other.

And on a human level, it is really sad.

And if you're doing that without thinking about it, because you're caught up in the algorithm and you're not pausing 10 minutes before you do it, that's even more shameful.

Like just take a break.

Just take a break.

And I know it sounds like quaint at this point because you've gone through so much of it and many people have, but it's just, it's such a bad thing to do.

Yeah, I think that's right.

And I mean, at The Daily Wire, one way that you can tell I think people are rejecting it is that, to their credit, they've allowed Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh to kind of openly dissent from some of Ben's arguments.

And sometimes they do it on their live streams, which I think, again, that is a good thing.

And it tells me that they know, even among their own audience, that it's sort of controversial to be totally embracing every single

element of Ben's arguments.

I think they also, I mean, it's an interesting new media lesson.

We don't totally have the full story publicly yet, but the growth was too fast and you have to have diversified, I think, revenue streams.

Whereas if like a big chunk of your revenue is based around Ben and you want to build a big media company that does movies and TV shows and documentaries and

And also has a news website.

And remember, they had a publishing imprint for a while.

They were doing books and children's programming.

And you're reliant on probably streams of investor money, but your big pull is still Ben.

At one point, it was Candice.

That's a really rickety foundation.