Blindboy

And what I was chatting to Jane about was how in your field, in order to get people to give a shit about this stuff, you have to make the argument for capitalism.

So when we're speaking about, you know, venom, it's like, well, they're not just insects, they can cure diseases.

And the other thing we were speaking about was

It was the UN's, was it the biodiversity report that the UN did?

The UN did this huge report where they had to use the language of finance.

No, it was water.

The UN said the world is approaching water bankruptcy.

That because of how we're exploiting the ecosystem, that fresh water is disappearing.

But all the language that they used was they had to go, this is like having a bank account and you think the money is there, but it's going to disappear.

And they had to do this because they need politicians and people in finance to care about this stuff because these are the people with the necessary power to try and stop it.

Which is bleak.

But when I was a kid, there was no fucking internet.

So what we did is we hung around an old building site.

There was a building site and there was a dump.

And beside the dump, there was a pond.

Like I've kids now and I keep saying, I can't believe it.

Like I did something today that you'd fucking hate.

My two little kids were in the garden and there's a bit of long grass and I didn't want them there barefoot.

And I said to him, stay out of there, there's spiders, they'll bite you.

Oh, for God's sake.