Blindboy

Collie's been on this podcast a few times.

He's one of my earliest guests back in 2018 and I've had him on a few times since.

Me and Collie just click.

He's another guest.

I've said it before.

There's been multiple guests on this podcast over the years.

And when I've really, really clicked with these people and they've become friends, about 80% of them, it turns out, they find out that they're autistic or neurodivergent.

And Kali is one of those people.

I was just like, this fella, when we chat, we fucking click.

No issues whatsoever with small talk.

We just go straight into it.

And it's that example of what's called double empathy.

And double empathy is a beautiful theory because it

It posits that it's not the neurodivergent people that are defective or wrong when it comes to social rules and understanding and communication.

It's not autistic people struggle with small talk, autistic people struggle with eye contact,

people struggle with this and that and all this social communication.

Instead, it's no, it's a miscommunication because a lot of neurodivergent people don't report these issues when they're speaking to another neurodivergent person.

And that is 100% my experience.

A lot of guests on this podcast who've been recurring.

There's a couple of others who I won't mention because I don't know if they're public about it yet.