Blindboy

And how much of that obsessiveness made you, like, weird to your friends?

Was your dad doing that just because he wanted a pond?

On the subject of pans, right?

I went to, I said to you recently, I sent you a video of a fella who was, he had a pond out his back garden and it was in, it was self-contained.

So there was no pump.

There was nothing.

And it was aquaculture.

Yeah.

So what I liked was you can just have a pot.

There's fish inside there.

There's plants and it filters itself and you leave it the fuck alone.

And there you have it.

And you said to me, that's a great idea, but can you do it without the fish?

But these were ponds, didn't have fish in them, but these alone were sustaining flies.

The thing is there, right, is, so first off, I just, when you told me that, I found it fascinating.

I found, like, the introduction of troughs on farms, how that could, like, eliminate so much biodiversity.

But the big thing is, you're speaking about water beetles, you're speaking about mosquitoes, things like that.

Why should we give a fuck about them?

That's, most people go, who gives a fuck?

I don't give a fuck about water beetles, Collie.