Bob Kagan
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I think that many of these sailors have not had any leave.
And so that can lead to all kinds of things.
The longer you keep people deployed, the more likely there is for error.
So that's one part of it.
But I really do think people...
And people are saying that Trump has announced intention to commit war crimes.
And so I think I really do think it's important to note they can claim that the bridge has both military and civilian uses.
But when you start going after the energy grid, that's an attack on a civilian target.
This is what Putin is doing in Ukraine.
He is destroying the energy grid in Ukraine to make the Ukrainian people suffer so much that the government can't continue the war.
And so now the strategy in this attempt to liberate the Iranian people from this brutal regime will now be to make them suffer as much as possible and bring about what the Israelis, I think, are looking for, which is not regime change, but state failure.
by which is meant really the inability of any state to function in Iran.
If Trump gets what he wants, we will go sailing off into the sunset, having turned Iran into a smoking ruin where people are dying of starvation and disease and lack of access to water, etc.
The regime has collapsed, the country is in total chaos, and we are on our way back to...
wherever we were before we started this.
And I don't know what the outcome of that is for the region and not to mention for the Iranian people.
Again, our strategy, insofar as we seem to have a strategy now, is sort of beyond regime change, or it's regime change accomplished only through the utter destruction of Iran.
Yeah, sure.
Only through state failure.
Whether he can accomplish state failure in two or three weeks of intensive bombing, I don't know.