Bob Kagan

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1,471 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 29 Jul

Bob Kagan’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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He's willing to pay the price.
He's not going to be bogged down by international law.
The Wall Street Journal was bragging about how international law is bunk.
He's not going to be bogged down by liberal sensibilities, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So we're really, finally, we have someone who's willing to go all the way.
That's my best explanation.
Then, of course, when you paid $10 million for a phony painting, you don't want to ever admit that you paid for a phony painting.
So then you're now you're stuck.
And that's why it's been hard, I think, for them to turn against the conflict.
And now I think I'm going to be very interested to see for these people how much of it is about principle and how much of it is just needing to get along in the Donald Trump era.
You know, I don't really think that's true, honestly.
I mean, I know that apparently being me means that I favor every war that could possibly be fought by anybody at any time.
I didn't say that.
No, I know, but look, I can't help it that this was an obvious mistake.
Setting aside all the amusing aspects of it, I'm interested to know where does this lead people from a doctrinal, since this is a doctrinal discussion, you know, where does this lead people in that regard?
Now, you know, my view has always been and remains that
that the United States created a unique international system which has worked better than any other international system in history and was worth preserving, and that that system was based primarily on American power, and it was based primarily on what America accomplished in World War II, and it heavily relied on America's willingness to use force.
Unfortunately, throughout the Cold War, and certainly throughout the post-Cold War period,
The Ben Rhodes of this world didn't believe any of that, any of that.
You know, I had lunch with Barack Obama, you know, in 2012.
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