Bob Kagan

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The Bulwark Daily · Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World · 3 Apr 2026 podcast

So that's point one.

Point two is...

Do we see the damage that Trump has done?

He's been in office a little over a year, three more years, three more years of this kind of behavior.

What can be done in the next three years, what has already been done is going to be much worse.

And I think what we're going to start seeing now, we're already seeing it, is it's going to be a very rapid transition to a post-American world.

You know, everybody right now is scrambling to form –

New relationships to become less dependent on our states economically, politically and militarily.

Look, if your goal was to make sure that the United States would no longer be a global power and would be fundamentally policing the Western Hemisphere and basically bringing us back to where we were circa like 1840, that goal is well on its way to accomplishment.

Yeah, I mean, sure.

You know, the only...

I've outflanked you.

That's what I was wanting to do.

I've outflanked you.

You turned the tables, Tim.

You have pretty successfully turned the tables.

But can I give a partially serious maybe answer?

I was hoping for a partially serious answer.

So here's the thing.

I mean, Trump is setting us up now for greater challenges coming from Russia and China, in my opinion.

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