Bob Kagan

speaker

1,471 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 29 Jul

Bob Kagan’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

Trend

recordings per month · last 12 months

Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 4 in all, peaking in Jul 2026 with 1.

Appearances

newest first · ▶ plays the moment

The Bulwark Daily · Robert Kagan and Marianne Williamson: Slipping Into Dictatorship · 4 Feb 2026 podcast

So there'd be that element.

The purpose of ICE is to spark riots, I believe.

That's why they encourage them to be as brutal as possible.

This is not an accident.

There's so much talk about how, oh, they're not trained.

If only they were trained.

That's nonsense.

They want them to do this.

They're encouraging them to be brutal so that there will be protests.

This is definitely the Stephen Miller playbook.

So that they will be brutal and therefore spark riots, which then, if you do get into the Insurrection Act territory,

Historically, the court has been very reluctant to question the president's judgments about national security.

That's how we got the Korematsu decision about Japanese internment.

The court was not going to question the president's judgment about national security.

And that was Franklin Roosevelt.

So when Donald Trump says, hey, there's a national emergency, there is foreign power involvement, I'm sure Tulsi will be there to tell us about how there's foreign government involvement.

I don't trust the court in that case to overrule the president's judgment, especially this court.

At the end of the day, and this is the thing that I think

We've just been really slow to pick up on.

At the end of the day, things are about power.

Showing 1381–1400 of 1,471 · page 70 of 74