Bob Kagan

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1,471 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 29 Jul

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The Bulwark Daily · Robert Kagan and Marianne Williamson: Slipping Into Dictatorship · 4 Feb 2026 podcast

You know, we keep hoping that the American spirit and the American institutions and all those things, all those wonderful things that we believe in are the things that are going to protect us.

These guys are wielding force and they have a near monopoly of power.

And you have to ask why.

What scruple does Trump have that is going to prevent him from taking these elections and messing with them in any way that he wants to?

So I don't know.

I'm not as optimistic as you are.

I'm quite serious.

I really do.

I know you are.

I agree that if I were Stephen Miller, I'd be very unhappy with Trump right now because the proper response to what was happening was just shut up and that this is who we are.

And Trump does have a weakness as a dictator, which is –

At certain points, he doesn't like to have people mad about something and the optics are bad.

And the Republicans are very sort of amusing about this, which is we're down with the dictatorship, but can it be less messy?

Let's not be murdering people in the streets.

That's unpleasant.

We get bad mail from our constituents.

But otherwise, they're down with it.

And by the way, have you noticed that basically 40% of the public is also down with the dictatorship?

I mean, it's not like you can't know anymore what Trump's intentions are, how he's behaving.

And yet he's still at, I don't know, roughly...

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