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Bob Kagan

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436 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And it turns out we're not interested in the Iranian people either.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Is this just for Israel's protection?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Was this entire war for Israel's protection?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Is this a crusade?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, you've got Pete Tegseff, you know, saying, God, give us the power to smite our enemy, which is this like a Christian fight against Muslims?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, I'd love to know, really.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Well, you know, I do think it's worth just going through what we all know, but it's worth repeating.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

What is the origin of American involvement here?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Because, you know, clearly Trump was hoping to sort of bluster his way into getting the Iranians to accept some kind of deal in which they would give up their nuclear weapons.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

But, you know, that that was ongoing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

But what what happened was.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Our intelligence showed that the mullahs and their whole leadership was going to have a meeting in the daytime.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And we passed that information on to the Israelis and the Israelis and Bibi basic said, look, I have an opportunity to take out the whole leadership.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Should we, you know, should we just go ahead and do it?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And I think Trump thought he saw a freebie here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

The interesting thing about this, we're all like beating our chests about how great the American military is.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And it is great.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And I'm not saying it isn't.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

But it wasn't the American military that took the initial step of taking out Iran's air defenses, which is the most dangerous element of the operation and which the United States would not have done because it was too risky for the stakes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Israel, because of October 7th, completely changed its risk calculus and was basically, we have to do whatever we need to do.