Bob Kagan
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And so they did undertake the risk in the first instance of taking out the air defenses, which allowed us to then come in and prove how tough we were.
And then when they said we could take out the whole leadership, Trump just said, oh boy, do it.
And it's the Israelis who took it out, not us.
You know, they were the ones who launched a daytime raid, which is also very risky.
So I think Trump just thought I can come swooping in and I'll be the guy who took out the mullahs and it'll be over.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And despite his reputation for playing five dimensional chess, I don't think plays one dimensional checkers.
He didn't really go through the what the possible downsides of this action where he thought he saw an easy operation.
You know, this whole grand strategy.
What is Trump doing?
Trump's doing what he always did.
He saw a shiny object and he thought he could grab it.
And so he grabbed it.
And he does love blowing stuff up.
So he got another chance to blow stuff up.
Yeah, well, I mean, in the early days of the war, and I mean, even today, there's been a lot of sort of like crowing about how our impressive military feat is now going to strike terror into Beijing and Moscow because they watched us blow all this stuff up.
And I'm actually quite astonished at how many people are like, Israel's our real ally.
They're our invaluable ally.
They're the ones we can really count on.