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Bob Kagan

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436 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And so they did undertake the risk in the first instance of taking out the air defenses, which allowed us to then come in and prove how tough we were.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And then when they said we could take out the whole leadership, Trump just said, oh boy, do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And it's the Israelis who took it out, not us.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, they were the ones who launched a daytime raid, which is also very risky.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So I think Trump just thought I can come swooping in and I'll be the guy who took out the mullahs and it'll be over.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Exactly.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Exactly.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And despite his reputation for playing five dimensional chess, I don't think plays one dimensional checkers.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

He didn't really go through the what the possible downsides of this action where he thought he saw an easy operation.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, this whole grand strategy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

What is Trump doing?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Trump's doing what he always did.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

He saw a shiny object and he thought he could grab it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And so he grabbed it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And he does love blowing stuff up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So he got another chance to blow stuff up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Yeah, well, I mean, in the early days of the war, and I mean, even today, there's been a lot of sort of like crowing about how our impressive military feat is now going to strike terror into Beijing and Moscow because they watched us blow all this stuff up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And I'm actually quite astonished at how many people are like, Israel's our real ally.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

They're our invaluable ally.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

They're the ones we can really count on.