Bob Kagan
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first heard Feb 2026
last heard 29 Jul
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So I think he's distanced himself enough from Israel.
And why lose the people who will be upset if he overtly turns on Israel when the message is being delivered anyway, I think.
Which to me, which is an interesting question.
I'm waiting to see whether sort of conservative Jews ever decide that Trump has proved to be an extremely unreliable supporter of Israel.
But, you know, each individual is different, as we know.
No, I would say of all the people who have ever claimed that it was better for me to be in than to be out, I would say he has the better argument of it.
I mean, I know that all those people who went into the Trump administration who made that claim, it was nonsense.
They may have...
turned him away from doing something at one moment that he was then going to do again later.
And most people think that they are so valuable that they're irreplaceable.
And that's just not true.
In the case of Lindsey Graham, I think it's closer to being true.
But of course, that was not his primary motive here, right?
I mean, that's the thing.
I mean, his motive was not, I'm going to
I'm going to debase myself.
I'm going to take a guy that I said was a horror and decide that he's our great leader and I'm going to follow him everywhere, all because I'm looking to do the, you know, try to do the right thing.
No, this was about getting right with the new movement and making sure that he, you know, he died as a senator.
He never wanted to have a life in which he was no longer senator.
To him, I almost feel like that was a fate worse than death.
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