Bob Odenkirk

Obviously, I think there's joy and reward in being alive and in the ways in which we look away.

In whatever way in which you find to transform that horror.

The horror, the horror.

In whatever way you find to transform that,

into something good, entertaining, beautiful, comforting to another person, helpful, that's beautiful, and that's the joy of life, is turning shit into gold.

Comedy gold.

Well, whatever gold you can make it into, whatever kind of alchemy you can do is, I guess to me, that's the good part.

Now, little kids, and if we want to go back to where you started.

Yes, that's what I was going to do.

Yeah.

They do that by, kids do that by being alive, by watching them be alive.

I think you feel that, that

magic that when you come to fully grasp life and it can be taken away from you bit by bit until it's all gone, but you can reconnect with it.

And yeah, I don't know.

I mean, one of the challenges of this interview was I have no unified field theory of myself.

I'm a bit of – as you can see from my career, I kind of go in a lot of directions.

And I don't have a very solid justification for the –

I can't characterize the whole thing.

And the only thing I can say is there's a risk, there's a great risk that I am willing to take, I think, because I don't think much of myself.

In other words, let's say I made a huge ass of myself in trying to do action films.