Brené Brown

And I said, tell me something they do to earn marbles.

Oh, well, like if I get to my tray late at lunch and there's no place to sit, Lorna will scoot over and give me half her seat and we just share one seat and I can sit at the table.

And then the other day when I had strep throat, Hannah was worried about me.

So remember her mom called and said, Hannah's worried about Ellen.

Why wasn't she at school?

But then the biggest thing that Hannah did was the other day,

Oma and Opa, my parents, my mom and her husband, came to my soccer game and Hannah looked over and goes, oh my God, your Oma and Opa are here.

And I said, why was that a big deal?

And she goes, because everybody's divorced and remarried and I've got eight, you know, four sets of people and she remembered their names.

And what was shocking to me is that Ellen was conveying

that these marbles were being earned on these very small... She knew my grandparents' name.

She gave me a seat to sit at.

She checked on me when I was missing school.

And so...

It made me start thinking about the literature on trust.

So I immediately go to the Gottmans.

Have you had the Gottmans on here?

Oh, twice, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, just like, yeah.