Brenda Dennehy

I was like, oh my God, I couldn't believe I was so happy for you.

And I think it was because I had heard you had so many miscarriages before.

I was like, this one is... This one's stuck.

And even Mother's Day recently, I think I messaged you, I just said, this is a special one for you.

I was like, you popped into my head and I was like, if this is going to be... And it's special for every mother, but especially someone in your own situation because you had to do all those other Mother's Days and you didn't have that.

What were those like?

This year now, were you more mindful of, did you share much of this Mother's Day yourself on it or anything like that?

Because you were probably like, I don't want to upset those other mothers.

It's so worth it.

And that's where I really wanted you on the podcast.

to give hope to others.

And that's what that's what this podcast is all about.

And I know for some women biologically, it might not be.

unfortunately I have been told that they can't carry but there is other ways you know there is so many options out there if you want to be a mother be that mother you know if you want to be that mother then you have it in you I had Sian Horne on the podcast recently and sadly she had many many miscarriages as well and her thing was that she couldn't she couldn't keep them she just couldn't keep them alive they were her own words for people listening mags men and women what would you say

And then regarding yourself and Bernard's relationship, did it put stress on it?

So it's like they're waiting over Ola.

Do you know when you're walking around the National Park now, which you absolutely adore, with Isla, was there times before you were looking at... Oh, we walked down there straight after miscarriages.

And you would have seen children in buggies and...

Can you tell me a bit about your mom?

We're not inciting violence here or anything like that.