Brenda Dennehy

And like you, when you mentioned the jazz weekend as well, my first round, I'll never forget being stuck in for the jazz weekend.

and I was raging because that was like the weekend I'd always got I was so upset that's a huge one in Cork yeah isn't it and I you know where Fernandes is and for the listeners as well it's on the Cork Kerry Road so I remember looking down at the road going they're all going off for the jazz now and I was just so resentful and but look wasn't it the best thing that ever happened to me but

I think for anyone listening as well, again, as I said, like, you know, it's not, people might get frightened when it comes to treatment centres like that.

It's not based on the religion.

It's not that.

It's just who they are.

It's just their background.

And Ciarán, you've done a load of work yourself between like you from, you're going from being in prison.

How was it?

Definitely over 10 times.

And being in addiction for, would you say?

12, 14 years.

12, 14 years active addiction and living like a life of horrors really to having spoken in how many schools around the country?

So you're 24 years sober?

It's beautiful.

Is she named after someone in particular?

I had a grandmother May alright a grandmother May we just thought of the name like the double barrel name my god Ciarán and one thing before I ask you the final three questions all this harrowing stuff that has happened to you while sober that's not easy it's not easy what do you think has kept you strong

And the thing is, I mostly, and you probably the same, most of the messages I get when it comes to addiction is like I had someone on to me there now lately and her husband's after having a relapse and she's trying to save him.

And the thing is, you know better than me, you're qualified in this.

I've just lived it.