Brenda Dennehy

But when you're so used to a crutch and those memories coming up from your past addiction, like the devil would have been in your head to use again and take away.

Yeah, one million percent.

So to go through that and all the other cases you were saying, to deal with that, that's great admiration for you.

I you must have.

What do you think was it that you just didn't?

What do you think it was?

Because that's incredible strength.

Rachel, I must say, like your honesty.

You said to me, as I said to you there on the phone a couple of weeks ago, why would you want me on your podcast?

I'm telling you now, the amount of people who are going to listen to this and even get so much help from what you're saying, identifying in you, like I guarantee you.

And I'm so delighted.

I'm so delighted.

I've been following your journey online and I'm so delighted for you.

And Kenneth Fester.

I said to Rachel coming in because his name is Fester, I was like,

Is that his real name?

Probably kill me though for this.

He looks like a kid.

He'll always be Fester to me.

Someone in some sort of... That's Uncle Fester from the Addams Family.