Brené Brown

Yeah, that's where I would lead.

Yeah, and not biological.

And I think the resistance, you know, as a very solid gen Xer.

Everybody that I know, myself included, was raised with a pretty healthy dose of shame at home, in the classroom, as athletes.

I think today the kids' rejection of that where they can, and power is a hard thing there, is more psychosocial cultural than it is biological.

I'm just wondering if there's, you know.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

I think it's interesting.

I think so too.

And I, I think that it's, I guess I looked at that question and I think it's surprising to me that anyone believed that it worked even, you know, in the medium term, even in the short term in some cases, because you're right.

Shame does change behavior.

But yeah, I'm, I'm thinking about, there's a Barry Stahl et al study on angry halftime speeches by college basketball coaches.

Do you know this one?

Oh my God, I don't.

I'm so excited I could die.

It's such a cool study.

So you look at what happens to a team after the coach goes in and gives the angry halftime speech or not when they're behind.

And it turns out that the team is more likely to win if the angry halftime speech happens, but only under two conditions.

Only under two conditions.