Brian Hayes

I mean, there's a couple of centers, a couple of bigger centers, but Landon controls the game, and we watch how these defensemen are so impactful and how important they are to the success of teams, and Landon, it won't take you long to notice him in the game.

Once the puck's dropped and he's out on the ice, you'll notice him.

I think it is the way the game is played now.

Glenn Dirk, the late Glenn Dirk, he was a longtime scout for the New Jersey Devils, and he always had funny scouting reports.

He used to talk about those small defensemen.

He goes, it might be better to be a jockey in the Kentucky Derby than the NHL because that's the way the game was played.

I mean, it was hard.

I mean, it was big.

It was heavy.

People leaned on you.

The clutching and the grabbing made it really harder.

The game now is very different.

So those types of defensemen that can – and even Lane Hudson went 62nd overall.

Like, you know, Quinn Hughes went 7th.

Well, you almost had to convince so many people that, oh, no, he can play.

You give him a chance.

Let him go play.

I remember when Bob Clark first became our manager in Minnesota, his office, and we were in his office, and he said, you know, I like those defensemen that come in my office and have to duck under the doorway.

Okay, we got the message, Bob.

But, you know, like you know, Jeff, the game was a little bit different, a lot different.