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But I get what you're saying.

She did not come to fame as a contestant on one of the main franchise shows.

same for you it is never gonna be the same for you that is beautiful that actually legitimately lifted my spirits and i'm glad it did because as the ceo i fear that we now have to circle back to where we have some holes this year where is pop culture lagging right now like what moments set us back oh

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Matt, what about you?

What moment do you think set us back?

Oh, Lord.

Right.

You're talking about actors and directors speaking out in support of Palestinian people or not being able to travel to the US because of President Trump's travel ban.

I think you're so right.

I think that's exactly it.

It would have been a throwaway comment if it had been years before.

When that happened, it stunned me how long that conversation went on beyond what I thought would have been acceptable, which would have been about 40 minutes.

Oh, my gosh.

I am hoping that that hoopla is not, like, a precursor for these sort of, like, celebrity mess cycles to come in 2026 because that tired me out.