Brittany Luce

That's the other thing.

of the halls of power in order to be very visible as Black conservatives or very visible within conservative politics.

Whereas to your point now, it's not just like that if you profess these views, you can get a seat at the table.

You also don't have to be anybody in particular.

You just maybe have to be loud or popular or what have you.

But you don't necessarily have to be Nicki Minaj, let's say.

You know, another thing that I think about is the expanding definition of whiteness.

Like in some ways, whiteness, it's like a construction meant to keep power and privilege for some while rejecting it for others.

I don't know, how do you think changing notions of whiteness factor into all of this?

I mean, like, and not just considered a Nazi, as I also think we need to kind of clarify, you would be perhaps socially ostracized for saying something like that.

It would be, if people didn't think it was racist, they would at least think it was a very poor taste.

Like before, I suppose, let's say as a thought exercise, if you were a person of color, if you were say a black person, right?

And you were like, I'm really trying to get down with some of the things that the KKK and the Nazis are talking about.

They're going to see you and not want you in the club.

You can't go to the meeting.

You can't hang out with them.

That's not how it's going to work.

Well, yeah, and I can also see how that's like that kind of visibility for, you know, maybe someone like a Nicki Minaj or Snoop Dogg or...

Or even someone like Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens.

The Trump embrace of those kinds of people when they have happened, I could see how that might signal to someone who feels disenfranchised by liberal elites on the left or rather in the camp of Democrats.