Brock Johnson

They were all conversion-oriented posts.

Yeah, absolutely.

So biggest, biggest, biggest fan of ManyChat ever.

I will sing their praises until the day I'm dead.

I am obsessed with ManyChat and have been talking about it for about five years.

And I am not going to stop talking about it because there's estimated 200 million content creators and small businesses who use Instagram.

And there's only about a million who use ManyChat.

So about half a percentage are using the tool that literally every single one of them should be using.

So yeah, every single time I'm selling, I am never using a link.

I am never saying, go click the link in my bio or put a link on my stories.

It's always DM automation.

It's always comment to keyword to get a thing, reply with a keyword to get a thing.

And usually it's a free thing.

We have like over 30 freebies and digital downloads or even

$7 low ticket things in our funnel because I'm a huge proponent of the email list.

My family has had personal experiences with hacks and losing social media and losing tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of followers in a day.

And so an email list is, I think, still to this day, the bread and butter of any successful business online.

I don't care how many followers you have.

I care how many email list subscribers you have.

That will be a much better predictor of your bottom line, your revenue.