Bryan Hayes

How about that?

equipped and experienced to have those kind of conversations so quickly quickly i want to ask you guys because you can answer this you guys have both been in that room noodles you've been in your own rooms

He's no longer the former player, though, right?

Like, you can't pull Matthews aside and say, hey, we're just two captains, let's grab a beer and talk as players.

He's not that anymore.

Why can't he?

Because he's not.

He's technically Matthews' boss now, or he's in the executive office.

He can blend with that.

I guess that's what I'm asking you.

I'm asking you to play the role of Matthews and Willie.

Do you think they look at him differently?

Is he a confidant?

Or is he going back to tell Chayka and them and saying, hey, Austin just told me we've got problems in the room.

And it's like, well, you're no longer Matt's the guy who... You're not a player anymore.

That's what I'm getting at.

He's got to shed the I'm the former player because he's an executive now.

I'm not saying he wouldn't do that.

I'm saying, do you think Brady speaks to him as the player Dave Poulin or as the manager?

It's a very different conversation.