Bucky Brooks

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They are in a crossroads in terms of who they're going to be in this new world with NIL, revenue share, and those things.

You have to either go all in on being transactional or you have to be bold enough to be transformational and say, hey, we're going to do it a certain way and be okay when the results are not consistently what they were back in the past.

I would say the difference is, though, because when I look at all these teams –

I don't know if all the great teams, like for instance, Houston, who's really good.

They're doing it with fourth and fifth year players that have stayed in the program.

They may have a pro or two, but I would say maybe the difference is the profile is not that of a blue blood where you expect it every year.

So they build it differently and they had the patience to wait.

I don't know, like in Kentucky.

Kentucky and Carolina are kind of in the same thing.

The fan base doesn't have the patience to wait for a rebuild.

Their expectations every year.

Every year we need to be there.

But you know that Duke has not won a national title since 2015.

So a lot of that is a bit of a myth.

They're in the Final Four every year.

I don't know.

Like you can go to the dance, but if you ain't dancing, what does it mean?

I mean, they haven't.

Carolina won one in 2017, and they win again in 2016.