Caia Hagel

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253 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 7 Feb

Caia Hagel’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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response to stress so we always think of fight or flight you know but honestly if you've ever been in a situation where something scary was happening like imagine if you're in a village and there's there's a warring community that lands on the village and starts killing people do you fight and flight like I think you actually gather you gather and that I think that that well according to
Red Rabbit, who was the engineer, the software engineer that created Anon.
And she's done quite a lot of research on this.
And that was part of her alternative to the adrenaline approach, is that in the history of humankind, caring for one another has actually been the element of our humanness that has helped us survive.
It's been part of our survival strategy, not fleeing.
I would say fleeing is actually cowardly in terms of, you know, if you have a whole community and you're trying to defend yourselves against something scary, you huddle together and you make yourself stronger through numbers.
And so she was looking at touching into a very, very deep and ancient and maybe quiet instinct in us.
And that's what the conclusion of the book is really about too, about love and how deep love is.
And we talk about it almost in a cliche way, but it is actually the thing that touches us and moves us the most and probably has the most innate connection with our instinctual survival skills.
And it's definitely what we all think about and wonder about and really appreciate on our deathbeds, right?
I did.
And actually you chose such a moving passage.
I forgot having written that.
It's actually so true and I'm seeing it more and more because the human brain, so transference, right?
The mirroring process that happens in a therapeutic setting is exactly like you said, it mimics how babies are mirrored by their caretakers and that's what allows them to live.
You know, babies die if they're not held and they're not mirrored.
It's like a documented scientific fact.
Another scientific fact is that simulated forests give the same effect of calm and sort of equanimity for people than actually walking in a forest.
So the human brain doesn't distinguish between stimuli that make you feel as if you're doing something and stimuli that you're actually doing.
And that, it makes it very difficult to, and not that we have to distinguish, I think if we feel good, we feel good.
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