Caitlin Dickerson

The law on its face says everybody who doesn't have status is deportable.

You know, so even more so now I could see people saying they would want ICE to be abolished at some point in the future because you're going to have this massive workforce that is disaligned with what I think a lot of people think immigration enforcement should look like in the United States.

So my sense is that the country would not support a world in which there was no immigration enforcement.

I don't see that as a realistic possibility.

But I think that a lot of the

anger behind this abolish ICE message really comes out of people's frustration, and they may not realize this, with what Congress has told ICE to do.

OK, so I'm going to recommend Impossible Subjects by May Nye.

This is kind of a holy grail book for immigration nerds, but it's eminently readable and it tells the story of Americans' relationship to immigrants, really helps people understand how we reached this moment.

and how immigration enforcement has really always been subjective.

You know, it's never been as simple as figuring out who's legal and who isn't.

It's really more been about who's desirable and who isn't.

So I really recommend that book by May Nye.

I also want to recommend Solito by Javier Zamora, going in a complete different direction.

If you want to learn more about immigration in this moment, but you don't want to read about policy,

You don't want to read anything wonky.

You just want to read an incredibly beautiful story that helps you understand what it's like to come to the United States to cross borders in general.

What does it mean to be an immigrant?

It's a gorgeous book.

The last book that I'm going to recommend is Meditations for Mortals by Oliver Berkman.

So I don't know about you, but to get through the last few years, meditation has been really critical for