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Cal Newport

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Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

What can we say?

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

What if we say it's bug, let's focus on this bug finder.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

We haven't talked about that in a while.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

Oh my God, we built that ultimate bug finder.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

Nowhere before mythos were they saying that was their goal or this was one of the big uses of LLM.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

So to me, that was a red flag.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

So what I think they did is they were hoping to play us both ways.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

Say this thing is really terrifying, get a lot of terrified columns written.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

get everyone really worried about it, wait a month and a half, and then release it and try to ride on that sense of

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

this is a super powerful model that when we then release a version to the public, they'll be willing to pay the much higher token prices that these larger models command.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

So they're trying to play us both ways, terrify us and still just go right ahead without restriction with their plan of releasing and trying to make money off of that software.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

So I think that was just pure marketing.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

Again, this doesn't say that LLMs are not good at finding security vulnerabilities.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

This is not the saying that the new coding harnesses that took off starting last fall aren't good at writing exploits if you explain to it

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

But what I am arguing is that we never had evidence that mythos was some sort of revolutionary leap in these capabilities that would merit the way that Anthropic talked about it or it uniquely being put on an export control list as compared to other cutting edge frontier models.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

All right.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

The second relevant question is, of course, should the government...

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

be more involved with AI.

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

So if we are putting aside politics, like, is there a way we could imagine a more hands-on regulatory regime that would make sense?

Deep Questions with Cal Newport
Was the Mythos Ban Justified? (Good Idea. Bad Execution.) | AI Reality Check

Well, in order to understand what role the government should or shouldn't play here, let's look a little bit closer on the question of why the Trump administration did what it did with mythos, because there's three different explanations that are out there right now floating around.