Cameron Crowe

What a message for her to leave you with.

And you write in the book, I wondered why Kathy hadn't left me a message of some kind, not even a suicide note.

And then I remember the record she'd ordered.

My California girl sister was telling me not to worry, baby.

You still have a relationship with her, you feel?

That idea that you can still have a relationship with someone who's died was revolutionary to me and I learned it from a documentary filmmaker named Kristen Johnson who made a film about her dad who recently died from Alzheimer's.

She brought up that idea and I literally did not understand the word she was talking about.

That's how like deeply buried I was but I now understand that and I have a deeper relationship with my dad now than I did before and I know him in ways I never did before.

Just struggling along like everybody else.

There is no Oz behind the curtain.

There is no Oz.

There's no champagne in the champagne room and no Oz behind the curtain.

I did an interview with Megan Fowley, whose spouse, Andrea Gibson, was a spoken word poet who recently died.

And they wrote a poem from the afterlife.

And it talks about death is only a portal to here.

I'm more present now than I've ever been before.

And I'm so close to you.

And Megan uses the term allegedly when talking about Andrea's death.

Oh, that's great.

And Megan's point is we have no idea what happens when somebody dies.