Cameron Gleeson

We'll come back in 10 years and we'll see who did best.

Thanks, mate.

Sean, thanks very much for having me here.

I haven't seen Project Hail Mary yet.

I'm looking forward to it.

But you're right.

That's probably one of the triggers, isn't it?

I think you've highlighted some of the keys there.

The momentum and the interest in SpaceX potentially IPOing on the NASDAQ has been a strong driver of interest.

But more generally, we're starting to see an ecosystem of companies involved in the space industry, which are making very significant progress.

Many of them are growing their revenue at extraordinary rates.

Some are even reaching profitability, which is good to see because this is still quite an emerging industry.

We're starting to see that trading volumes in a lot of these companies have really gone up.

So a lot of these are global companies rather than Australian companies.

But if you sort of look at the amount traded, that's a clear indication that

investors are seeing an investment case for investing in space.

And I'm sure we can get into it, but there's been some, I think, real progress in terms of key technologies, which are enabling the commercialization of space.

Yeah, that's right.

So we're looking to launch BetaShares Space Industry ETF.

The ticker code for that will be RCKT, rocket, would be the pronunciation of that.