Carlos Chiriboga

You can argue with some of those rebel leaders' methods.

She was just put in charge and utilized it.

And she herself was even like, yeah, I'm probably going to go to jail as soon as this is over.

But I don't mind sacrificing my own well-being either.

Everything's got to go.

Well, yeah, that was the core concept I came up with for his personality.

And when you look back at all of his life, you see that his kind of fears and anxieties have driven most of his life decisions.

He, like...

retreated from academia to the safety of like being a middle school teacher.

None of his kids are going to like challenge him intellectually, right?

He gets to be the cool kind of worshipped cool guy teacher.

And, you know, that's a comfortable spot for him.

And so, yeah.

And I mean, that's much more in line with who I kind of empathize with than the fearless hero.

I'm the fearful hero.

It's funny because when I wrote the book, I thought,

To myself, I was like, I would never be willing to sacrifice myself to save the world.

I'd really want someone to do it, but not me.

Someone should do this.

Someone should definitely do this.