Carmen Vitali

And so I don't have really an issue saying that.

And I, but listen, at the end of the day, what matters?

Thank you, Connor.

Yeah, I see that.

Well, to the outside world, most people think that, to be fair.

People are like, how big is Texas?

It's big.

It's just population.

Okay.

Oh, gosh.

Minnesota Vikings.

Yeah, they do, but also what have their actions told you, which is what I go off of, which is like, hey.

They do, but they also don't have a GM effectively right now.

So that's the other thing, too, where I'm like, OK, what is, I guess, the reason that, and it's an off-the-wall answer for sure, but it's one of those things where I'm kind of like, all right, if you're going to root for something like chaos,

I think that that's it because the teams are so familiar with each other.

What we've seen as a trend in this division is the inter-division trades.

And if you look at where KOC is comfortable and who he knows, well, who does he know really well?

He knows Matt LaFleur really well.

And they come from the same tree.

And so I think that there's something there.