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Carol Leonnig

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
448 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

You know, it's really been a breathtaking set of days. And I don't just mean this to complain about our work-life balance. I just mean, if you are an employee of the FBI, you have experienced every day, maybe two or three events that have been stunners. A week before last, a series of the executive leadership for Chris Wray, the FBI director, all career employees, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

You know, it's really been a breathtaking set of days. And I don't just mean this to complain about our work-life balance. I just mean, if you are an employee of the FBI, you have experienced every day, maybe two or three events that have been stunners. A week before last, a series of the executive leadership for Chris Wray, the FBI director, all career employees, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

You know, it's really been a breathtaking set of days. And I don't just mean this to complain about our work-life balance. I just mean, if you are an employee of the FBI, you have experienced every day, maybe two or three events that have been stunners. A week before last, a series of the executive leadership for Chris Wray, the FBI director, all career employees, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

They're not beholden to Chris Wray, but they are promoted by him into high-level jobs. All of them were brought into a meeting the day before Kash Patel's hearing and told, your names are on a list to go. And the next morning, while Kash Patel is testifying, they are brought again, a larger group of them brought into a meeting that

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

They're not beholden to Chris Wray, but they are promoted by him into high-level jobs. All of them were brought into a meeting the day before Kash Patel's hearing and told, your names are on a list to go. And the next morning, while Kash Patel is testifying, they are brought again, a larger group of them brought into a meeting that

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

They're not beholden to Chris Wray, but they are promoted by him into high-level jobs. All of them were brought into a meeting the day before Kash Patel's hearing and told, your names are on a list to go. And the next morning, while Kash Patel is testifying, they are brought again, a larger group of them brought into a meeting that

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

with their acting directors, Driscoll and Kassane, and told, you got to resign or you'll be fired by Friday. Resign, retire, your choice, but you got to be gone. And we're sorry, we're just the messengers here. Oh, yeah. And over the weekend, all the FBI employees are learning that they are going to be questioned on a formal survey about their role in January 6th.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

with their acting directors, Driscoll and Kassane, and told, you got to resign or you'll be fired by Friday. Resign, retire, your choice, but you got to be gone. And we're sorry, we're just the messengers here. Oh, yeah. And over the weekend, all the FBI employees are learning that they are going to be questioned on a formal survey about their role in January 6th.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

with their acting directors, Driscoll and Kassane, and told, you got to resign or you'll be fired by Friday. Resign, retire, your choice, but you got to be gone. And we're sorry, we're just the messengers here. Oh, yeah. And over the weekend, all the FBI employees are learning that they are going to be questioned on a formal survey about their role in January 6th.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Did you execute a search warrant? Did you subpoena anybody? Did you interview, testify, arrest? A kind of almost like a survey monkey survey to figure out, you know, what was your role in investigating a violent insurrection and attack on police? So all those things are happening in a string of days while Kash Patel is assuring the

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Did you execute a search warrant? Did you subpoena anybody? Did you interview, testify, arrest? A kind of almost like a survey monkey survey to figure out, you know, what was your role in investigating a violent insurrection and attack on police? So all those things are happening in a string of days while Kash Patel is assuring the

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Did you execute a search warrant? Did you subpoena anybody? Did you interview, testify, arrest? A kind of almost like a survey monkey survey to figure out, you know, what was your role in investigating a violent insurrection and attack on police? So all those things are happening in a string of days while Kash Patel is assuring the

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

the Democrats and the Senate Judiciary Committee that he would never be involved in any political retribution, and he's not aware of any plans to get rid of anybody. Okay, fast forward. Dick Durbin, ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he has multiple quote-unquote whistleblowers. We use the term carefully. Credible sources who come forward to him to say that

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

the Democrats and the Senate Judiciary Committee that he would never be involved in any political retribution, and he's not aware of any plans to get rid of anybody. Okay, fast forward. Dick Durbin, ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he has multiple quote-unquote whistleblowers. We use the term carefully. Credible sources who come forward to him to say that

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

the Democrats and the Senate Judiciary Committee that he would never be involved in any political retribution, and he's not aware of any plans to get rid of anybody. Okay, fast forward. Dick Durbin, ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he has multiple quote-unquote whistleblowers. We use the term carefully. Credible sources who come forward to him to say that

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

that those acting directors, Driscoll and Kassane, were being told at that very moment on Wednesday and Thursday, the Wednesday before the hearing and the Thursday of the hearing, that Kash Patel was the person who wanted these people gone.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

that those acting directors, Driscoll and Kassane, were being told at that very moment on Wednesday and Thursday, the Wednesday before the hearing and the Thursday of the hearing, that Kash Patel was the person who wanted these people gone.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

that those acting directors, Driscoll and Kassane, were being told at that very moment on Wednesday and Thursday, the Wednesday before the hearing and the Thursday of the hearing, that Kash Patel was the person who wanted these people gone.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

In fact, in contemporaneous notes taken by an FBI official, it says KP wants fast movement on this and that Stephen Miller had been calling- Maybe that was Kristaps Porzingis.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

In fact, in contemporaneous notes taken by an FBI official, it says KP wants fast movement on this and that Stephen Miller had been calling- Maybe that was Kristaps Porzingis.