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Carol Leonnig

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
448 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

In fact, in contemporaneous notes taken by an FBI official, it says KP wants fast movement on this and that Stephen Miller had been calling- Maybe that was Kristaps Porzingis.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Right, right. I mean, I think what's interesting to remember about Kash Patel is that he's an interesting witness on the stand, right? He told the entire public in the middle of the Mar-a-Lago records dispute when it became news and reporters were learning that the FBI was investigating whether Donald Trump was hoarding classified records in 2022.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Right, right. I mean, I think what's interesting to remember about Kash Patel is that he's an interesting witness on the stand, right? He told the entire public in the middle of the Mar-a-Lago records dispute when it became news and reporters were learning that the FBI was investigating whether Donald Trump was hoarding classified records in 2022.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Right, right. I mean, I think what's interesting to remember about Kash Patel is that he's an interesting witness on the stand, right? He told the entire public in the middle of the Mar-a-Lago records dispute when it became news and reporters were learning that the FBI was investigating whether Donald Trump was hoarding classified records in 2022.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Kash Patel, his loyal soldier, shows up on podcasts and interviews saying, I saw Donald Trump declassify all this stuff. He has ultimate power. I saw him declassify to the fullest extent of the law all of these records, as if the Mar-a-Lago records had been declassified and that wasn't a problem. Later, he was brought before a grand jury, and that's not what he said, according to sources.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Kash Patel, his loyal soldier, shows up on podcasts and interviews saying, I saw Donald Trump declassify all this stuff. He has ultimate power. I saw him declassify to the fullest extent of the law all of these records, as if the Mar-a-Lago records had been declassified and that wasn't a problem. Later, he was brought before a grand jury, and that's not what he said, according to sources.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

Kash Patel, his loyal soldier, shows up on podcasts and interviews saying, I saw Donald Trump declassify all this stuff. He has ultimate power. I saw him declassify to the fullest extent of the law all of these records, as if the Mar-a-Lago records had been declassified and that wasn't a problem. Later, he was brought before a grand jury, and that's not what he said, according to sources.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

And in fact, testifying on Thursday last, Patel was pressed on that too and said, hey, wait a minute, I didn't say he declassified all those records. I said I saw him declassify a lot of records. So he's a wily witness, Patel.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

And in fact, testifying on Thursday last, Patel was pressed on that too and said, hey, wait a minute, I didn't say he declassified all those records. I said I saw him declassify a lot of records. So he's a wily witness, Patel.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

And in fact, testifying on Thursday last, Patel was pressed on that too and said, hey, wait a minute, I didn't say he declassified all those records. I said I saw him declassify a lot of records. So he's a wily witness, Patel.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

It depends on your view. But if you counted how many times he used that favorite phrase, I can't recall as I sit here today. It's not ringing a bell. But if you gave me more information, you know,

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

It depends on your view. But if you counted how many times he used that favorite phrase, I can't recall as I sit here today. It's not ringing a bell. But if you gave me more information, you know,

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

It depends on your view. But if you counted how many times he used that favorite phrase, I can't recall as I sit here today. It's not ringing a bell. But if you gave me more information, you know,

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

One of the things that FBI employees and justice employees watched with shock as they are literally watching his testimony live in their offices or in their remote work locations, as they're watching this, they're like, wait a minute, you said you don't know some of the prosecutors that were fired in Jack Smith's office? Because there's one particular one that Booker asked him about.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

One of the things that FBI employees and justice employees watched with shock as they are literally watching his testimony live in their offices or in their remote work locations, as they're watching this, they're like, wait a minute, you said you don't know some of the prosecutors that were fired in Jack Smith's office? Because there's one particular one that Booker asked him about.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

One of the things that FBI employees and justice employees watched with shock as they are literally watching his testimony live in their offices or in their remote work locations, as they're watching this, they're like, wait a minute, you said you don't know some of the prosecutors that were fired in Jack Smith's office? Because there's one particular one that Booker asked him about.

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

And these were people that interviewed Patel for hours in the grand jury. So how could you forget that person?

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

And these were people that interviewed Patel for hours in the grand jury. So how could you forget that person?

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

And these were people that interviewed Patel for hours in the grand jury. So how could you forget that person?

The Bulwark Podcast
Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

The problem is, you know, I don't know that we're going to get the answer, Tim. You're absolutely right. There's no gray matter here. It's black, it's white, one or the other. And I'm not going to put a finger on the scale and say who is or isn't telling the truth, because I'm all about facts. But Kash Patel has not been a very careful, precise, or clear narrator in many other instances before.