Carol Masser

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You know, it's funny, Carol and I spent a lot of time talking about this ahead of the interview because Wikipedia sort of seems, and look, it's had its challenges, it's had its controversies, but for things that are online, it's kind of this weird utopia in the sense that- It's kind of remarkable.

Yeah, it's really remarkable.

We know anonymous people online oftentimes are full of vitriol and hate.

We can see that even when people use their names on social media platforms.

We lock our doors when we leave the house.

Why does trust work on Wikipedia but

kind of seems like nowhere else right now.

With media, with trust in media here in the United States declining and having declined over the last few years,

In your view, is there something that we can do better, that the media can do better, that it can borrow from what has worked at Wikipedia, what has worked with the methods of trust that you've studied, that can make us build trust again with our audiences?

And actually, we're very... But you really just say, just send him an email and I'm not going to do anything about it.

How is the fundraising going?

Because I feel like I've gotten a lot of messages from you throughout the years.

It's time to raise money.