Cas Holman

I did well because I was smart, but then I went to college and that's where I realized I was a terrible student.

I only did well in high school because high school was kind of easy.

UC Santa Cruz.

There were no grades at the time, but I still did terribly.

Okay.

I just was like, wait, study on command.

I didn't know how to do that.

I was not going to hold still and read a whole book in one night.

In school, I learned how to do school.

And then I had a kind of a lack of foundational understanding of how to do rigor.

I started in sciences.

I dropped out after two years because I lost all my scholarships.

And I went and lived in the Galapagos Islands for a year and a half.

Chasing iguanas and learning about biodiversity.

Yeah, just that.

Part of why I didn't do great in undergrad.

Fairy Village, did you spend time in Santa Cruz?

Lots of really good fairies there who really want to help you have a wonderful time on mushrooms.

No interest in you going to class.

The redwoods are, and the campus is in the redwoods.