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Cassie Kozyrkov

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
648 total appearances

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Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

You insist that the game you want to play is called Heart Sweeper, but you have never programmed a gosh darn thing.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

What are you going to do?

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Suffer.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Right, so either you're going to find a programmer and pay them, yes.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Right, that's one option, good.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Delegate, I love it.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Or you become the programmer.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

What does that take?

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

several years of learning how to speak an unnatural language.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

It is not natural, these things, these C++ and pythons and assembly and whatever else.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

It's not natural.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

And you have to be some kind of masochist like me to think it's fun to do this.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

It's fun.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Speaking of Harry Potter, I've always thought programming was a little bit like magic spells, like abracadabra.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

But you first have to learn the language.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

Wingardium Leviosa.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

You have to learn these funny words.

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

And after a while, after seven years in wizarding school, you can make yourself a custom Minesweeper app, can't you?

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

But today, you go into ChatGPT, Claude, whichever one of these tools, and now what does it take in order to make the attempt?

Unblinded with Sean Callagy
Former Google Chief Decision Scientist Cassie Kozyrkov on AI, Decisions, and Human Responsibility

To make the attempt, you just say what you want.