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I mean, that's... No, they keep her from it.

Sorry. So, I mean, so it was just the whole gift thing. And the thing that, yeah, like how Ty said about, I don't understand why you would stop gifts, especially after 15 years. One of my things also, too, is like I sat there as a child, a literal child.

Sorry. So, I mean, so it was just the whole gift thing. And the thing that, yeah, like how Ty said about, I don't understand why you would stop gifts, especially after 15 years. One of my things also, too, is like I sat there as a child, a literal child.

Sorry. So, I mean, so it was just the whole gift thing. And the thing that, yeah, like how Ty said about, I don't understand why you would stop gifts, especially after 15 years. One of my things also, too, is like I sat there as a child, a literal child.

And that was my main thing that I said to her and Brandon was like, I don't, you know, above everything else, I just want to be able to send her birthday gifts and send her Christmas gifts and Easter. I remember telling him I will send everything for any holiday just because I want her to know that she is loved by us and that we haven't forgotten about her.

And that was my main thing that I said to her and Brandon was like, I don't, you know, above everything else, I just want to be able to send her birthday gifts and send her Christmas gifts and Easter. I remember telling him I will send everything for any holiday just because I want her to know that she is loved by us and that we haven't forgotten about her.

And that was my main thing that I said to her and Brandon was like, I don't, you know, above everything else, I just want to be able to send her birthday gifts and send her Christmas gifts and Easter. I remember telling him I will send everything for any holiday just because I want her to know that she is loved by us and that we haven't forgotten about her.

Yeah, so I think there's a lot of underneath going on, and I know a lot of people say that we are exploiting Carly or posting stuff when we are asked not to, and part of this podcast is to also get my part out of that's not all factual. There's a lot of things...

Yeah, so I think there's a lot of underneath going on, and I know a lot of people say that we are exploiting Carly or posting stuff when we are asked not to, and part of this podcast is to also get my part out of that's not all factual. There's a lot of things...

Yeah, so I think there's a lot of underneath going on, and I know a lot of people say that we are exploiting Carly or posting stuff when we are asked not to, and part of this podcast is to also get my part out of that's not all factual. There's a lot of things...

I feel like, you know, and we want you to do that. Yeah, I want you to advocate for her.

I feel like, you know, and we want you to do that. Yeah, I want you to advocate for her.

I feel like, you know, and we want you to do that. Yeah, I want you to advocate for her.

And so you agreed on it being filmed. you agreed to show up on reunions.

And so you agreed on it being filmed. you agreed to show up on reunions.

And so you agreed on it being filmed. you agreed to show up on reunions.

Yeah, it's it mostly sits in my jewelry box because I have lost it a few times being a kid, you know, so that so that stays. But yeah, things like that, you know, when it's when it's beneficial for them to exploit Carly. And to post – What do you mean by that?

Yeah, it's it mostly sits in my jewelry box because I have lost it a few times being a kid, you know, so that so that stays. But yeah, things like that, you know, when it's when it's beneficial for them to exploit Carly. And to post – What do you mean by that?

Yeah, it's it mostly sits in my jewelry box because I have lost it a few times being a kid, you know, so that so that stays. But yeah, things like that, you know, when it's when it's beneficial for them to exploit Carly. And to post – What do you mean by that?

beginning uh yeah that you know i posted a picture a video or something i can't remember what it was and they and then we had a conversation it was filmed you were pregnant with nova we hashed it all out and we agreed from that moment forward like we won't post any more pictures any unapproved yeah any unapproved photos right and then yeah that's when you fast forward a few years because noble was born and that was the other visit where they got to meet for the first time