Catherine Austin Fitts

dual citizenship type stuff in China.

And I don't believe the Chinese government is going to allow its authority to be challenged by international pools of capital, at least in the East.

Right.

Because it's going to control the East, right, I think.

Right.

So China is like a roadblock to these forces.

I want to get back to programmable digital currency really quick.

How far are we from like universal adoption in the West?

And when and if that comes, what will it mean for like the average person?

Well, you're against it like philosophically and for, you know, for the reasons you've articulated, but it's like Amazon.

Amazon's obviously bad, but everyone uses it because they're clear benefits.

It's like, it's cheap, it's fast.

Are there clear benefits to the consumer in stablecoin?

Sounds like the U.S.

government needs the stablecoin in order to keep treasuries selling.

Do they mind?

What would be the effect if we wind up with digital programmable currency?

So bottom line, in a time of radical technological change, which we're living through right now, the obvious, the first result is like societal chaos and revolutions and wars.

And that's why I got the Bolsheviks, et cetera, et cetera.

The people pushing this technological change or watching it from positions of authority know this.