Catherine (Kat) Kirkland
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168 appearances
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 28 Jul
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So essentially CMS is saying any Medicaid dollar that you receive, if you turn around and have a separate private arrangement with another hospital, that's still a Medicaid dollar.
Um and in my view, how how
How would you even call that a Medicaid dollar?
Is it a commercial dollar?
Is it is is it money that you earned in a bank?
Um, so I think we kind of get into this nitty-gritty of like what is the nature of a dollar and what actually makes you know a whole harmless arrangement, especially if the state or local government isn't involved in it at all.
I'll tell you, Baxter, you and I both work regularly in in Texas, and um the state is not involved in these arrangements.
At all.
They don't, they don't, they're I think they're passively aware of them, but they don't administer them.
No.
They don't have
If anything, I think they take an active hands off.
you guys do what you want to do.
I don't want to know anything about it.
Um
Right.
I I agree.
I think CMS's interpretation is extremely broad.
Extremely broad.
It's basically I I don't even necessarily know
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