Catherine (Kat) Kirkland

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168 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 28 Jul

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How CMS could police appropriate what it is suggesting?

Would it look at any relationship between hospitals in a community and consider any sort of arrangement or joint venture potentially running afoul?

Um, I it it it is so broad, and I think there's a reason that Congress.

limited the hold harmless to state and local governments.

Whoever is imposing the tax cannot hold hold harmless those.

So I I I think there's a reason for that because it can be policed, it can be traced.

And um and you have private parties who have a variety of business relationships.

Um, you know, some of these mitigation agreements, you know, definitely

and grants are are trying to make sure there's no winners and losers under programs, but they can also be used for other means.

And so I I think it I think it ignores the reality of business relationships.

And also, you know.

I y when you zoom out and you think about the way the government is trying to control the private to private business relationship, it

It is difficult to point to other areas, I think other industries.

Mm-hmm.

that sort of like a collaboration between two private businesses would be policed in the sim a similar way.

Um beyond, you know, beyond zooming out and looking at, you know, um mergers and acquisitions and things like that.

And so so to me it's it's a it's an interesting take by CMS and the stakes could not also, you know, again, not be more high.

Um in terms of in terms of how

how these programs work.

Right.

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