Catherine Newman

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312 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2022 last heard Jun 2022

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I just rem I'm I'm have a metaphor in my head and it's like being a kid and watching someone crack open a geode and there was just this like rough gray rock and then on the inside it was just like all glittering purple.
And this feeling that if we approach other people with enough
tenderness and curiosity that we will have access to that.
kind of beauty.
Now that sounds very aspirational.
And I realize that uh there's nothing in the book that quite matches that, but just that curiosity about other people is a learnable skill.
You ask questions.
You listen when somebody um talks, you look up from your phone to indicate that you're curious and interested.
So I feel like that's a weirdly kind of underrated skill or kind of way of moving through the world, but it seems to me that it's at the heart.
of so much and again just to expand it out like if you think about things happening at a global level.
if people stopped and said, Wow, what's it like to be you?
What what is the significance of this to you?
Tell me more about you know, what you believe and why.
Those are just the biggest possible
ways of being, the most significant ways of moving through the world.
That's a huge worldview in and of itself, just curiosity.
Oh my God.
And I love that you said that about being wrong about people because that is one of my favorite things.
I love to be wrong about people in that way.
I love that.
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