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Catherine Rampell

πŸ‘€ Speaker
878 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And it is true that with Mexico, at least, we do have a lot of people coming over the border without permission. We do have fentanyl coming over the border illegally. With Canada, neither of those things appears to be true. In fact, we send more fentanyl to Canada than they send to us, so it seems.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And it is true that with Mexico, at least, we do have a lot of people coming over the border without permission. We do have fentanyl coming over the border illegally. With Canada, neither of those things appears to be true. In fact, we send more fentanyl to Canada than they send to us, so it seems.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

In any event, the solution, the Canada solution, I'm using air quotes for people who are only listening to this and not watching. The solution that Canada came up with was like, we're going to have a fentanyl czar. And also, even though there's not really a fentanyl problem.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

In any event, the solution, the Canada solution, I'm using air quotes for people who are only listening to this and not watching. The solution that Canada came up with was like, we're going to have a fentanyl czar. And also, even though there's not really a fentanyl problem.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

In any event, the solution, the Canada solution, I'm using air quotes for people who are only listening to this and not watching. The solution that Canada came up with was like, we're going to have a fentanyl czar. And also, even though there's not really a fentanyl problem.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yes. I don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yes. I don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yes. I don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The other concession, also in scare quotes, that Canada made was we're going to invest more money in border protection, except they had already announced the same amount of money back in, I want to say, December, December or November. Like before Trump took office, they had some plan to invest like a billion dollars.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The other concession, also in scare quotes, that Canada made was we're going to invest more money in border protection, except they had already announced the same amount of money back in, I want to say, December, December or November. Like before Trump took office, they had some plan to invest like a billion dollars.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The other concession, also in scare quotes, that Canada made was we're going to invest more money in border protection, except they had already announced the same amount of money back in, I want to say, December, December or November. Like before Trump took office, they had some plan to invest like a billion dollars.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I forget what the number was, but it was some large amount of money in their border and, you know, increasing the tech or something like that. And so, like, they just offered up these things that were either existing plans or fake. And Trump was like, victory! And, you know, he's really good at repackaging the status quo as a victory.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I forget what the number was, but it was some large amount of money in their border and, you know, increasing the tech or something like that. And so, like, they just offered up these things that were either existing plans or fake. And Trump was like, victory! And, you know, he's really good at repackaging the status quo as a victory.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I forget what the number was, but it was some large amount of money in their border and, you know, increasing the tech or something like that. And so, like, they just offered up these things that were either existing plans or fake. And Trump was like, victory! And, you know, he's really good at repackaging the status quo as a victory.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Although, in this case, the status quo before all of this was arguably much better because Canada didn't hate us before. But whatever. They didn't actually have to do anything, but they came up with something that... kind of sort of had the veneer of scratching the itch that like appeased Trump, the things that he was complaining about.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Although, in this case, the status quo before all of this was arguably much better because Canada didn't hate us before. But whatever. They didn't actually have to do anything, but they came up with something that... kind of sort of had the veneer of scratching the itch that like appeased Trump, the things that he was complaining about.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Although, in this case, the status quo before all of this was arguably much better because Canada didn't hate us before. But whatever. They didn't actually have to do anything, but they came up with something that... kind of sort of had the veneer of scratching the itch that like appeased Trump, the things that he was complaining about.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

But now Trump has done this on virtual, you know, imposed tariffs on virtually every country around the world. Are they also going to create fake fentanyl czars? I don't know. Clearly, reducing tariff rates is not actually what they're looking for. What is it that he wants from them that they can offer? And if he won't take their calls...

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

But now Trump has done this on virtual, you know, imposed tariffs on virtually every country around the world. Are they also going to create fake fentanyl czars? I don't know. Clearly, reducing tariff rates is not actually what they're looking for. What is it that he wants from them that they can offer? And if he won't take their calls...

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

But now Trump has done this on virtual, you know, imposed tariffs on virtually every country around the world. Are they also going to create fake fentanyl czars? I don't know. Clearly, reducing tariff rates is not actually what they're looking for. What is it that he wants from them that they can offer? And if he won't take their calls...