Chachi

It has to, it changes.

Did you learn about them from them?

Yeah.

my partner and I have been fans since when they were on X2 before they even like got huge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Correct.

Yeah, the foundation is really strong with those guys.

I'm a firm believer of not holding on to strict labels.

Because it's been myself in the face over time.

yeah and i mean i think it also comes from the other term that i identify with which is non-binary because i i while i am a cis man i don't feel like i identify with that all the time so there is an evolution and a flow with that terminology as well i i sometimes feel more female leaning or presenting and can put on a skirt and more uh

female presenting outfits and not have... But I'm still a gay man.

So there's a lot of fluidity with language and I consider myself non-binary only because I don't always...

identify with the male viewpoint in my brain, but I also don't consider myself trans or female presenting, even if I'm wearing effeminate, if you will, quote unquote, clothing.

Because I'm not ever wanting to be a woman.

I just don't want to be put into a box of heteronormative, cis male toxic behavior.

And so if I put on a skirt...

and go out to a show, I feel like I'm like representing me on a lot of levels versus not just a male.

I'm a man kind of thing, which is what I think a lot of us grow up with that are men.