Charles Schwartz

That's the, that's one of the things.

Don't be mean to other people, but you don't own them.

They don't belong to you.

If your kid decides that it wants to be a five headed astronaut penguin that dances on in this area.

Okay.

That's nowhere close of what I wanted to do, but just be nice to people on the way.

It's just, it's where there's expectations.

Right.

You talk about this all the time.

And there's a, there's a guy, this guy named Mark Devine talked to Mark about this all the time.

And I asked him, I said, you know, where do you, because if you don't, people don't know who Mark Devine is, SEAL commander.

Oh, Mark Devine.

And if you ask Mark, you're like, okay, where do, where do leaders lead from?

He goes, leaders lead from a point where it's never from the front.

They need to know that you can be led from the front, but you want your team to pull you off the line and say, listen, you're ineffective here.

I need you to keep your eye doing all this other stuff because you have all this experience and all these other things going on.

So it's these pivots that we do.

The reason I ask this and I bring it up, Mark, is when we come into these situations and you have your values.

And you have someone else in your business's values that you need them to do something, right?

You're like, hey, I've got this.