Cheryl Haley
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
And this is Cheryl, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
Well, I will tell you the first time that I had personal interaction with Richard was while dancing.
Because after his lecture, we always did dancing at Esalen.
And so it was kind of a freeform, playful dance.
And he was interacting with me.
And he became very aggressive and dominant.
And so I, in counterpart, played submissive and was subjugated and the victim.
But then I had enough of that.
So then I switched roles and then I became the aggressive one, the dominant one.
And I turned that energy on him and true to his form, he followed suit and he became submissive and he became very contrite and took the softer role.
So that's the beginning of our story together.
He had never done any drugs prior to that time because his mind was so precious to him and he didn't want to do anything to tamper with it.
And so he did confide to me that the reason he was willing to do it at this time was because he had already had surgery for cancer.
He was going to be undergoing his second surgery.
I think he knew that his time was coming.
And because he was so curious and he was such an adventurer, I think he really wanted to try it before he died.
what a physicist does is explore the nature of reality.
And I think he was equally curious about his own nature of reality.
And so anything that he could learn or experience that was new was welcome to him.
In fact, he told me about how he used to experiment in his dreams.