Chris Arnold

Hey, Sue.

Hey, Sue.

Yeah, right. A lot of these workers who've been fired are what are called probationary workers. And that can sound at first like, oh, well, maybe they got hired six months ago, so maybe it's not that big a deal. But in many cases, it's not that. You could have worked someplace for five, six, seven, ten years, and then you get a promotion and you're in a new job because you were doing a good job.

Yeah, right. A lot of these workers who've been fired are what are called probationary workers. And that can sound at first like, oh, well, maybe they got hired six months ago, so maybe it's not that big a deal. But in many cases, it's not that. You could have worked someplace for five, six, seven, ten years, and then you get a promotion and you're in a new job because you were doing a good job.

Yeah, right. A lot of these workers who've been fired are what are called probationary workers. And that can sound at first like, oh, well, maybe they got hired six months ago, so maybe it's not that big a deal. But in many cases, it's not that. You could have worked someplace for five, six, seven, ten years, and then you get a promotion and you're in a new job because you were doing a good job.

You're a good worker. And now you're in a probationary period in that new job. So these folks were in that category. And I talked to Eileen and James Kramer, and they worked at a national park in Alaska. It's called Lake Clark National Park. These guys have both gotten promotions recently. Everything seemed good. And then they get these letters saying, you know what, you're doing a lousy job.

You're a good worker. And now you're in a probationary period in that new job. So these folks were in that category. And I talked to Eileen and James Kramer, and they worked at a national park in Alaska. It's called Lake Clark National Park. These guys have both gotten promotions recently. Everything seemed good. And then they get these letters saying, you know what, you're doing a lousy job.

You're a good worker. And now you're in a probationary period in that new job. So these folks were in that category. And I talked to Eileen and James Kramer, and they worked at a national park in Alaska. It's called Lake Clark National Park. These guys have both gotten promotions recently. Everything seemed good. And then they get these letters saying, you know what, you're doing a lousy job.

And so you're fired today. No details, no reason. And it just looked like a formally letter with their names filled in. And here's Eileen and James.

And so you're fired today. No details, no reason. And it just looked like a formally letter with their names filled in. And here's Eileen and James.

And so you're fired today. No details, no reason. And it just looked like a formally letter with their names filled in. And here's Eileen and James.

I mean, that's what's happening right now. I mean, there are lawyers just gathering these up, you know, and being like, here's the letter. It's the same as the other thousand letters. And when you actually look at the personnel file, you know, this person got this commendation and, you know, and also they're talking and it turns out their own supervisor was like, I don't want to fire this person.

I mean, that's what's happening right now. I mean, there are lawyers just gathering these up, you know, and being like, here's the letter. It's the same as the other thousand letters. And when you actually look at the personnel file, you know, this person got this commendation and, you know, and also they're talking and it turns out their own supervisor was like, I don't want to fire this person.

I mean, that's what's happening right now. I mean, there are lawyers just gathering these up, you know, and being like, here's the letter. It's the same as the other thousand letters. And when you actually look at the personnel file, you know, this person got this commendation and, you know, and also they're talking and it turns out their own supervisor was like, I don't want to fire this person.

I had no choice.

I had no choice.

I had no choice.

Well, there's one in federal court in San Francisco against the Office of Personnel Management, which apparently the lawsuit alleges a lot of these letters just came from OPM and then kind of went through the agencies. But it wasn't even these agencies saying, we want to fire these people. But it also zooms in on this idea like you were talking about, like, well –

Well, there's one in federal court in San Francisco against the Office of Personnel Management, which apparently the lawsuit alleges a lot of these letters just came from OPM and then kind of went through the agencies. But it wasn't even these agencies saying, we want to fire these people. But it also zooms in on this idea like you were talking about, like, well –

Well, there's one in federal court in San Francisco against the Office of Personnel Management, which apparently the lawsuit alleges a lot of these letters just came from OPM and then kind of went through the agencies. But it wasn't even these agencies saying, we want to fire these people. But it also zooms in on this idea like you were talking about, like, well –