Chris Christie
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Governor, what's happening? Exactly what I predicted would happen, John. I mean, you know, I ran for president for a year telling everybody that, you know, this guy has not changed. He's not different. And that character matters. And it matters more than any particular issue. And what we're seeing now in the first, you know, is it now 10 days or so?
Governor, what's happening? Exactly what I predicted would happen, John. I mean, you know, I ran for president for a year telling everybody that, you know, this guy has not changed. He's not different. And that character matters. And it matters more than any particular issue. And what we're seeing now in the first, you know, is it now 10 days or so?
Is that, you know, the problem is going to be that not everybody, in fact, not most people will disagree with everything he does. But the underlying problem, in my view, is the pettiness, the vindictiveness, the anger, all those things will inform much of what he does. And it's going to lead to big problems, I think, in the country over the long term.
Is that, you know, the problem is going to be that not everybody, in fact, not most people will disagree with everything he does. But the underlying problem, in my view, is the pettiness, the vindictiveness, the anger, all those things will inform much of what he does. And it's going to lead to big problems, I think, in the country over the long term.
How? Well, I think that for different people, it's different things, John. I think both of those factors that you just put up there are the real reasons for lots of different people. For me, back in 2016, I had known him, but not extraordinarily well. I'd known him for a long time, but nobody really gets very close to Trump. But when you are an acquaintance of his,
How? Well, I think that for different people, it's different things, John. I think both of those factors that you just put up there are the real reasons for lots of different people. For me, back in 2016, I had known him, but not extraordinarily well. I'd known him for a long time, but nobody really gets very close to Trump. But when you are an acquaintance of his,
as I was during the years prior to 2016, he can be enormously charming. I'm sure. Enormously engaging, very solicitous. And for me, both as U.S. attorney for seven of those years and then as governor for a number of those years, he was all those things to me. And so that was part of it. And the other part for me was that it was like, OK, I ran in the primary against him. He beat me.
as I was during the years prior to 2016, he can be enormously charming. I'm sure. Enormously engaging, very solicitous. And for me, both as U.S. attorney for seven of those years and then as governor for a number of those years, he was all those things to me. And so that was part of it. And the other part for me was that it was like, OK, I ran in the primary against him. He beat me.
I'm a Republican. He's going to be the nominee. I'll be with him. And try to make him better than what he is at the moment. And that was my motivation at the time. And I turned out to be wrong.
I'm a Republican. He's going to be the nominee. I'll be with him. And try to make him better than what he is at the moment. And that was my motivation at the time. And I turned out to be wrong.
Well, in 2020, I think what it was was looking at these two guys, looking at Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And I really felt at the time like Biden was just too old to be president and wouldn't be able to do the job. And so I didn't like either choice, quite frankly. But this is-
Well, in 2020, I think what it was was looking at these two guys, looking at Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And I really felt at the time like Biden was just too old to be president and wouldn't be able to do the job. And so I didn't like either choice, quite frankly. But this is-
Right. I went with that one as opposed to the one who was, in my mind, mentally incapable of doing the job.
Right. I went with that one as opposed to the one who was, in my mind, mentally incapable of doing the job.
Yeah, and known him for a long time. I've known Joe Biden longer than I've known Donald Trump because Biden and I both went to the University of Delaware. Obviously, not not at the same.
Yeah, and known him for a long time. I've known Joe Biden longer than I've known Donald Trump because Biden and I both went to the University of Delaware. Obviously, not not at the same.
But Biden was a regular presence there when I was a student and I was the president student body. So I wound up getting to serve on the board where Biden was as well. So I got to know him and we kept in touch over the years and then reacquainted when he was vice president. I was governor and he was very helpful during Sandy.
But Biden was a regular presence there when I was a student and I was the president student body. So I wound up getting to serve on the board where Biden was as well. So I got to know him and we kept in touch over the years and then reacquainted when he was vice president. I was governor and he was very helpful during Sandy.
and made a number of trips to the state where I hosted him to help see the damage and do all that. So when we had kept in touch over all those years, and I just saw the precipitous decline in the Joe Biden I knew when I was a student, to the Joe Biden I knew even when he was vice president, to the guy who was running for president. And so that was the reason that I did what I did.
and made a number of trips to the state where I hosted him to help see the damage and do all that. So when we had kept in touch over all those years, and I just saw the precipitous decline in the Joe Biden I knew when I was a student, to the Joe Biden I knew even when he was vice president, to the guy who was running for president. And so that was the reason that I did what I did.