Chris Christie
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And quite frankly then, on election night of 2020, was when I made the break because when he came out, meaning President Trump, came out and made his speech on election night where he said, you know, the election had been stolen. Right. I was on ABC at the time. That was your bridge too far. Yes.
And quite frankly then, on election night of 2020, was when I made the break because when he came out, meaning President Trump, came out and made his speech on election night where he said, you know, the election had been stolen. Right. I was on ABC at the time. That was your bridge too far. Yes.
Thank you very much, John. Your kindness is overwhelming. Thank you so much. We usually use, that was the water over the dam. But again, that's just in our family now. Okay, fair enough.
Thank you very much, John. Your kindness is overwhelming. Thank you so much. We usually use, that was the water over the dam. But again, that's just in our family now. Okay, fair enough.
You got to be very careful. So many different scandals. But in the end, I said to him, and I said it to him that night, that you have no way of knowing that this election was stolen, and what you're doing here is damaging our democracy, and I can't be supportive of it. And I said that on the air.
You got to be very careful. So many different scandals. But in the end, I said to him, and I said it to him that night, that you have no way of knowing that this election was stolen, and what you're doing here is damaging our democracy, and I can't be supportive of it. And I said that on the air.
I said it was a disgrace on the air that night, and we really, except for one or two conversations, have not spoken since. And that was November of 2020.
I said it was a disgrace on the air that night, and we really, except for one or two conversations, have not spoken since. And that was November of 2020.
Well, I think there's two things, right? First off, we have to concede that he is the most fearless communicator I've seen politically in my lifetime. And I don't mean that as a compliment. He is willing to say anything over and over and over again with passion. And for a lot of people who, John, you know, look, you and I spend a lot of time thinking, reading, talking about this stuff.
Well, I think there's two things, right? First off, we have to concede that he is the most fearless communicator I've seen politically in my lifetime. And I don't mean that as a compliment. He is willing to say anything over and over and over again with passion. And for a lot of people who, John, you know, look, you and I spend a lot of time thinking, reading, talking about this stuff.
Most Americans don't. And so for them who just hear a snippet of this or that, they listen to who they think is most convincing. And that sways a lot of people. I think the other thing about what happened in 2024 is that elections are always choices at the presidential level. Most Americans feel some type of obligation to vote in a presidential election.
Most Americans don't. And so for them who just hear a snippet of this or that, they listen to who they think is most convincing. And that sways a lot of people. I think the other thing about what happened in 2024 is that elections are always choices at the presidential level. Most Americans feel some type of obligation to vote in a presidential election.
They may not vote in any of the other ones, but they feel like for president, I should vote. And turnout reflects that. And it was a choice here that I think really unfortunately for the country, the Democrats didn't present a choice that for a lot of Americans made sense. And I blame that on President Biden because he made a promise to us in 2020. He said he was going to be a transitional leader.
They may not vote in any of the other ones, but they feel like for president, I should vote. And turnout reflects that. And it was a choice here that I think really unfortunately for the country, the Democrats didn't present a choice that for a lot of Americans made sense. And I blame that on President Biden because he made a promise to us in 2020. He said he was going to be a transitional leader.
And we all understood or thought we understood what that meant, which was he was going to serve one term because at 82, he was just going to be too old to be able to do this. And then for whatever reason, he changed his mind. And I think if Joe Biden had left and said, not left the presidency, but had said after the midterms, you know what? I held off the Republicans here at the midterms.
And we all understood or thought we understood what that meant, which was he was going to serve one term because at 82, he was just going to be too old to be able to do this. And then for whatever reason, he changed his mind. And I think if Joe Biden had left and said, not left the presidency, but had said after the midterms, you know what? I held off the Republicans here at the midterms.
I did my job. And now it's time to turn it over to a new generation of Democrats to see who the next nominee will be. I think the Democrats would have had a vigorous primary, a lot of really good potential candidates out there. Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania, Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan. You go through a whole list of them.
I did my job. And now it's time to turn it over to a new generation of Democrats to see who the next nominee will be. I think the Democrats would have had a vigorous primary, a lot of really good potential candidates out there. Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania, Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan. You go through a whole list of them.
And instead what he did was hang on till he was practically being, you know, shoved out the door with his fingernails grasping the door jam and left Kamala Harris as the only option. And vice presidents are never well thought of, no matter which party it is. It gave her 107 days to try to convince the American people that she was better.
And instead what he did was hang on till he was practically being, you know, shoved out the door with his fingernails grasping the door jam and left Kamala Harris as the only option. And vice presidents are never well thought of, no matter which party it is. It gave her 107 days to try to convince the American people that she was better.