Chris Christie

And I don't think, John, that that's the way it's been implemented across the board in government. And I think people see examples of that and it makes them paint the entire effort with the same brush.

And I don't think, John, that that's the way it's been implemented across the board in government. And I think people see examples of that and it makes them paint the entire effort with the same brush.

And my argument to you is I don't think it makes it any better to just rig it in a different direction. And I think that's what people perceive was going on with DEI. It's not rigging it in a different direction. It's unrigging it.

And my argument to you is I don't think it makes it any better to just rig it in a different direction. And I think that's what people perceive was going on with DEI. It's not rigging it in a different direction. It's unrigging it.

governor. I think there have been a number of areas where there are people who hire certain folks just for their diversity. And I've seen it happen here in New Jersey, you know, in the government since I left, where people say, I am going to make sure that I have one of every, it's almost like a half a Noah's Ark.

governor. I think there have been a number of areas where there are people who hire certain folks just for their diversity. And I've seen it happen here in New Jersey, you know, in the government since I left, where people say, I am going to make sure that I have one of every, it's almost like a half a Noah's Ark.

Okay, I'm going to have one of these and one of these and one of these and one of these.

Okay, I'm going to have one of these and one of these and one of these and one of these.

No, no. What I did was get them in to interview them. And if it turned out, if it turned out, John, that they were also really good lawyers, they got hired. I'm talking about something different.

No, no. What I did was get them in to interview them. And if it turned out, if it turned out, John, that they were also really good lawyers, they got hired. I'm talking about something different.

I'm talking about predetermining the outcome in the way that you just talked about, and I believe that legacy admissions predetermine the outcome, that there have been some in charge of government across this country who have predetermined outcomes and said, I am going to have this many African Americans, this many Latinos, this many Asians, this many lesbians, this many gay men.

I'm talking about predetermining the outcome in the way that you just talked about, and I believe that legacy admissions predetermine the outcome, that there have been some in charge of government across this country who have predetermined outcomes and said, I am going to have this many African Americans, this many Latinos, this many Asians, this many lesbians, this many gay men.

And I think that when people see that, they say to themselves, that's not right either. Not that the other way was completely right, but now you're really screwing it up. They're both wrong. And I didn't get any objection when I did what I did in New Jersey.

And I think that when people see that, they say to themselves, that's not right either. Not that the other way was completely right, but now you're really screwing it up. They're both wrong. And I didn't get any objection when I did what I did in New Jersey.

It wasn't like a bunch of people started picketing saying when they started to see African-American, Latino, and Asian, and women prosecutors in the federal courthouse that they started saying, What the hell is Christie doing over there? He's turning a place into this.

It wasn't like a bunch of people started picketing saying when they started to see African-American, Latino, and Asian, and women prosecutors in the federal courthouse that they started saying, What the hell is Christie doing over there? He's turning a place into this.

I would say that airlines would not hire pilots given the importance of the safety of what they do if they didn't think they were competent.

I would say that airlines would not hire pilots given the importance of the safety of what they do if they didn't think they were competent.

I did. However, I will also tell you that I think that a lot of people don't view certain government positions nearly as critical. And so they feel like I can do this. And I think the public senses that. And that's the problem, John.

I did. However, I will also tell you that I think that a lot of people don't view certain government positions nearly as critical. And so they feel like I can do this. And I think the public senses that. And that's the problem, John.