Chris Gray

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586 appearances 5 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 11 Jun

Chris Gray’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Mr Healey was due to be, as Defence Secretary, going to NATO HQ in Brussels next week, this time next week, for a meeting of Defence Ministers from NATO member countries.
And I guess, ideally, he would have liked to have been going there with something that he...
you know, believed in.
And, you know, and I guess for a departing minister wrestling with the conscience question of whether or not you can live with something and look into the eyes of your opposite numbers around a table, et cetera, et cetera, as well as the people within the building in the Ministry of Defence, you know, a factor that will have been in his mind, no doubt.
And also he was meant to be doing a news conference and a visit with his Australian counterpart who had flown from Australia to Britain today and that those events didn't happen.
Well, they went,
They went on a morning run this morning, which is something of a tradition between the two of them.
And there was photos of that on social media.
And I hear that the travelling Australian press pack, delighting in the English summer of pouring rain on June, whatever it is, June the 11th.
were on a train to Portsmouth anticipating this moment of their respective defence secretaries talking about all things UK and Australian defence.
You might remember on Newscast our discussions about AUKUS, the deal between the UK, Australia and America around joint military programmes.
Only for said Aussie press pack to discover that the whole thing was binned because the host, or at least the original event was binned because the host
John Ely, and walk the plank.
Now, Shashank, I can imagine a scene where Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, is considering all of this, and she says to her officials, bring me a list of all the MOD's big prestige projects they've done for the last 30 years, and put a tick next to the ones that have gone massively over budget, ended up costing way more than people expected, didn't deliver as much as people expected.
had bits falling off or, I don't know, made soldiers sick when they rode in the armoured vehicle that we'd spent loads of money on.
And I imagine the list would be quite long and there'd be a lot of ticks next to things that hadn't gone well when it came to spending money.
Yeah, absolutely.
Is that a realistic scenario I've just pictured there?
And Chris, I remember chatting to Fiona Hill, one of the people who was doing the defence review, because she came on Newscast the day it was published.
And it was a really interesting chat, as conversations with Fiona Hill always are.
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